James Vance
b.1830 ca - VA
d.1888 07 Jan - Thacker Hollow [37 36.696 N 82 4.847 W], Mingo Co., WV
----- Parents -----
John Ferrell
Elizabeth S Vance
----- Siblings -----
Zeb Vance
Rachel Vance [A2888]
Nancy Vance [A1346]
Phoebe Easter Vance [A213]
Mary A "Polly" Vance [A506]
James Vance
----- Marriages -----
m01. - + Mary Collins (5 Children)
----- Children -----
Jane Vance
John Vance
Elizabeth Vance
James Vance
Amy Vance
Name: James Vance
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1850
Event Place: Logan county, part of, Logan, Virginia, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1832
Birthplace: Virginia
Household ID: 370
House Number: 370
Line Number: 33
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M432
Affiliate Film Number: 956
GS Film Number: 444946
Digital Folder Number: 004206378
Image Number: 00294
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Elizabeth Vance F 56 Virginia
James Vance M 18 Virginia
Mary Vance F 19 Virginia
Jane Vance F 1 Virginia
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12123-42470-77?cc=1401638
"United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8DC-PG7 : accessed 22 Mar 2014),
James Vance in household of Elizabeth Vance, Logan county, part of,
Logan, Virginia, United States; citing family 370, NARA microfilm
publication M432
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Name: James Vance
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1850
Event Place: Boone county, Boone, Virginia, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Race: White
Race (Original):
Birth Year (Estimated): 1830
Birthplace: Virginia
Household ID: 263
House Number: 263
Line Number: 20
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M432
Affiliate Film Number: 936
GS Film Number: 29711
Digital Folder Number: 004191113
Image Number: 00281
Household Gender Age Birthplace
James Vance [Jr?] M 20 Virginia
Polly Vance F 22 Virginia
Eliza J Vance F 0 [2/12] Virginia
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11775-135155-85?cc=1401638
"United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M885-G4M : accessed 22 Mar 2014),
James Vance, Boone county, Boone, Virginia, United States; citing family
263, NARA microfilm publication M432
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Name: James Vance
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1860
Event Place: Dist No 1, Pike, Kentucky, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Race: White
Race (Original):
Birth Year (Estimated): 1830
Birthplace: Va
Page: 152
Household ID: 797
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M653
GS Film Number: 803392
Digital Folder Number: 004231203
Image Number: 00525
Household Gender Age Birthplace
James Vance M 30 Va
Mary Vance F 30 Va
Jane Vance F 12 Va
John Vance M 10 Va
Elizabeth Vance F 5 Va
James Vance M 3 Ky
Amy Vance F Ky
Elizabeth Vance F 70 Ky
"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZBJ-292 : accessed 22 Mar 2014),
James Vance, Dist No 1, Pike, Kentucky, United States; citing "1860 U.S.
Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 152, household ID 797, NARA
microfilm publication M653; FHL microfilm 803392
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name: James Vance
estimated birth year: 1830
gender: Male
age in 1870: 40y
color (white, black, mulatto, chinese, indian): White
birthplace: Virginia
home in 1870: West Virginia, United States
Household Gender Age Birthplace
James Vance M 40y Virginia
Mary Vance F 40y Virginia
Elizabeth Vance F 15y Virginia
James Vance M 13y Virginia
Aimy X Vance F 11y Virginia
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZ4G-71H : accessed 23 Oct 2012),
James Vance in household of James Vance, West Virginia, United States;
citing p. 5, family 40, NARA microfilm publication M593, FHL microfilm
553190
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name : James Vance
event: Census
event date: 1880
event place: Magnolia, Logan, West Virginia, United States
gender: Male
age: 50
marital status : Married
occupation : Farmer
race or color (original) :
ethnicity (standardized) : American
relationship to head : Self
birthplace : Virginia, United States
birthdate : 1830
spouse's name : Mary Vance
spouse's birthplace : Virginia, United States
father's name :
father's birthplace : Virginia, United States
mother's name :
mother's birthplace : Virginia, United States
page : 302
page character : C
entry number : 154
nara film number : T9-1406
gs film number : 1255406
digital folder number: 004244691
image number: 00705
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self James Vance M 50 Virginia, United States
wife Mary Vance F 49 Virginia, United States
daughter Betty Vance F 24 Virginia, United States
son James Vance M 20 Virginia, United States
daughter Amy Vance F 18 Virginia, United States
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6RY-35D : accessed 23 Oct 2012),
James Vance, Magnolia, Logan, West Virginia, United States; citing sheet
302C, family 0, NARA microfilm publication T9-1406
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Name: John Francisco
Age (Expanded): 24 years
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Logan Co, West Virginia
Spouse's Name: Ann Vance
Spouse's Age (Expanded): 20 years
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1860
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace: Pike Co, Kentucky
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Sep 1880
Event Place: Logan, West Virginia
Father's Name: Jas Francisco
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Spouse's Father's Name: James Vance
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Collins
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
GS Film number: 571278
Digital Folder Number: 4130636
Image Number: 43
Reference ID: p 40 ln 52
Affiliate Repository Type: County Records
http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=571278&ImageNumber=4
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"West Virginia Marriages, 1853-1970," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRNW-BPN : accessed 04 Dec 2013),
James Vance in entry for John Francisco and Ann Vance, 09 Sep 1880
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one of the transcrips from KY Library. In this it says Randal fired the
first shot at Vance. We know that Phillips finished him off. Extracts
from letter of John A Sheppard
On the 6th of this month 30 men came from Kentucky with Frank Phillips
and John Rite as the head, took charge of Anderson Hatfields family,
drove the women and children before them down the river to the mouth of
Grapevine Creek where they took L.P. Smith and every member of this
family and Cap Hatfields wife and children and drove them like beasts
before them some four or five miles down the river to Wm Farrells. There
they made Farrell and another man go with them as guides and started for
old man James Vance lived telling the women and children all the time
that they would leave them at Ferrells and if one of them told of their
being in the Country they would kill them as they returned to Pike. Then
with the guides above referred to they proceeded up Thacker Creek to
Vance's where they found old old man Jim Vance and pursuant to a treat
made sometime before that, Old Randal McCoy fired on him and that was
followed by repeated shots until the body of the old man was torn into
shreds. And as I understand with no earthly provocation. All that they
could say, I suppose, was that he was a relative of and friend to the
Hatfields. From there they came to the head of Island Creek and we can't
tell what they will do next. The reward offered by Gov. Buckner has put
on the trail of the Hatfields, as set of lawless men who not only have no
respect for men, but brute-like will destroy women and children. The
whole country is alarmed and every one feels that there is no security to
life or property. We are listening all the time to bear of other horrible
deeds...Later news just from the scene, and it is true, says that Vance;s
wife and Cap Hatfield were with old man Vance when he was killed. They
told Vance and Cap to throw up their hands and fired simultaneously Cap
made his escape with a slight wound in the hand. Frank Phillips, the
officer walked up and crowed while two of the McCoys shook hands over the
dead body of Vance. They them turned and went back to Vance's house,
broke his truck open, took what money he had and a box of cartridges he
had together with his pistol and gun, they threw his beds into the yard,
cursed his daughter (the only person in the house), and told her if she
offered to raise her hand they would kill her, and from there they went
back to Ky. The man they made guide them through the mountains says that
Old Randal McCoy said he intended to kill Cap. Cut a slice of meat from
his body and broil and eat it. This trouble is ruining this country. I
tell you that good quiet men are growing desperate over the brutal murder
of old man Vance
Barbara Vance Cherep
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